walking_dude
10-08 04:07 PM
How do you know its rare? Do you know every Indian, every Chinese, every Mexican, every Phillipino [ all non-ROW countries] who has ever applied for EB GC? Mathew Oh posting about it shows it's being used by substantially.
In the same stroke, if we count the people who got stuck behind despite earlier PDs using real statistics, it may turn out to be less than 'Alternate Chargeability' + American spouse cases. Most people have been getting GCs by PDs!
Labour substituition is no longer allowed. But thousands of Substitution labors got approved just prior to July 16th(?) DOL deadline. So how trustworthy is the "holy" PD?
How many Indians do you know who have married sri lankans or pakistanis??? Its rare and its not worth making an issue.
India/China has huge population and therefore the number of applications far exceed ROW. Now who is to blame? Our parents? Our nation? Our politicians?
Labour substituition----Now thats bad...but its no longer allowed
In the same stroke, if we count the people who got stuck behind despite earlier PDs using real statistics, it may turn out to be less than 'Alternate Chargeability' + American spouse cases. Most people have been getting GCs by PDs!
Labour substituition is no longer allowed. But thousands of Substitution labors got approved just prior to July 16th(?) DOL deadline. So how trustworthy is the "holy" PD?
How many Indians do you know who have married sri lankans or pakistanis??? Its rare and its not worth making an issue.
India/China has huge population and therefore the number of applications far exceed ROW. Now who is to blame? Our parents? Our nation? Our politicians?
Labour substituition----Now thats bad...but its no longer allowed
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kshitijnt
05-10 09:25 PM
Quota based on race argument is fallacious. For example, Bangladesh and Pakistan are not limited by the quota. However, they are the of the same ethnic/racial background as people from India.
Thats my point. Why are pakistanis getting green cards and nobody is saying they have taken jobs away from Americans? So many come to US on visa free travel, work 6 months undocumented from european countries, yet they are the first to get the GCs while Indians abuse B1, they abuse H1. How come only Indians abuse everything no one else abuses anything?
Thats my point. Why are pakistanis getting green cards and nobody is saying they have taken jobs away from Americans? So many come to US on visa free travel, work 6 months undocumented from european countries, yet they are the first to get the GCs while Indians abuse B1, they abuse H1. How come only Indians abuse everything no one else abuses anything?
hiUS
09-05 09:48 AM
I actually spoke to Customer service and I got 2 very different responses.
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
She was rude and did not even give me the chance to speak.
What she told is 'My case is approved and they are missing the Biometrics and I will be getting the mail to appear for the Biometrics'
...and She is not even giving me the chance to explain the scenario of uploading the Biometrics to TSC etc... (I have seen in the forums that for the numbers starting with WAC...Biometrics were uploaded to CSC and the TSC is unable to upload the Biometrics back to their system. And she told him that she will put a request to upload the Biometrics to TSC ASAP which may take 3 to 4 days)
When I tried to tell this, the answer I got is "I don't want to hear anything from you and you will be getting the Biometrics mail as we are missing"
1. Wait till you are an old man and then the cards may just come !! (Just Kidding ) she actually said wait for 90 days.
2. Another CSR told me that the TSC is having technical issues and they are not able to access the Biometric information on approved 485's in their systems. She advised me to download Form I-90 from the USCIS site and fill that in and send it in - if you have a minor on the petition then also send 2 passport size pictures of the minor - this will allow them to access the Biometric screen when they process the I-90. We will get Biometric notices and the Minor will get the card - the Grown ups will get the Cards after the Biometrics are uploaded.
I have not done this - eventhough I downloaded the I-90 forms - I took a INFOPASS appt and if they suggest that I should do a I-90 then I can get that done right on the spot - I am carrying the filled I-90 with me. Anyhow I-90 is usually submitted to correct errors on the card or to replace a card - however this woman sounded quite knowledgeable - but then there are issues realted to where the I-90 should be sent - this is specially complicated if your case has been transferred a few times like mine was.
Best is to check with the guys/gals at Infopass -meeting.
All this was from the rep at the TSC - so not sure if this is applicable to all centers.
AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I HEARD FROM THE TSC REP - PLEASE USE THIS INFORMATION AT YOUR OWN RISK - I AM NOT SENDING THE I-90 ON MY OWN.
I will post my Infoapss exp on the 9th of september.
She was rude and did not even give me the chance to speak.
What she told is 'My case is approved and they are missing the Biometrics and I will be getting the mail to appear for the Biometrics'
...and She is not even giving me the chance to explain the scenario of uploading the Biometrics to TSC etc... (I have seen in the forums that for the numbers starting with WAC...Biometrics were uploaded to CSC and the TSC is unable to upload the Biometrics back to their system. And she told him that she will put a request to upload the Biometrics to TSC ASAP which may take 3 to 4 days)
When I tried to tell this, the answer I got is "I don't want to hear anything from you and you will be getting the Biometrics mail as we are missing"
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snathan
02-09 05:31 PM
People are giving red dots for asking donation....
Great we will fix all these problem by 2100.
GO IV GO...there are lots of free riders waiting for you.
I really feel ashamed you guys.
Great we will fix all these problem by 2100.
GO IV GO...there are lots of free riders waiting for you.
I really feel ashamed you guys.
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h1techSlave
07-20 12:43 PM
If I simplify the whole attitude of IV members; it would be "EB3 is hopeless; EB2 doesn't need any help".
The way the whole EB GC stands now, EB2 folks do not need any additional help. The dates are moving relatively fast. In a year or two most of the EB2 folks will get GC. So why spend money and time in IV efforts?
As far as EB3 folks are considered, we have no hope. CIR is dead; piecemeal efforts are opposed by CHC. IV has never shown much interest in piecemeal efforts, despite the fact that what ever little efforts have resulted in enormous positive results.
The way the whole EB GC stands now, EB2 folks do not need any additional help. The dates are moving relatively fast. In a year or two most of the EB2 folks will get GC. So why spend money and time in IV efforts?
As far as EB3 folks are considered, we have no hope. CIR is dead; piecemeal efforts are opposed by CHC. IV has never shown much interest in piecemeal efforts, despite the fact that what ever little efforts have resulted in enormous positive results.
acecupid
09-25 03:58 PM
Saw an interesting video on youtube the other day. The first thing that came to mind was the EB2-EB3 fights. If only we can fight together rather than each other ! ;)
YouTube - Every Indian must see this Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4UltkRJsw)
YouTube - Every Indian must see this Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4UltkRJsw)
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bebar
06-15 11:52 AM
Filed June1st. But still waiting for receipt notification.
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priti8888
10-08 12:55 PM
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EndlessWait
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 227
GC must be FIFO based only i.e PD
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Action item for IV, besides visa recapturing etc. Its one of the items they
should add to there agenda. ----------------------------------------------
aside from 1)increasing numerical caps,
2)reducing processing delays,
3)eliminating per country limits,
4)eliminiting career stagnation rules,
5)aside from visa recapturing,
6)aside from not wasting visas,
7)aside from eliminating name-check backlogs..,
8) aside from allocating one visa per family as opposed to one visa per person---.----you want them to change their internal system as well!
I understand the entire system needs an overhaul,but it would be great if IV acheives even one of the above agendas....
EndlessWait
Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 227
GC must be FIFO based only i.e PD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Action item for IV, besides visa recapturing etc. Its one of the items they
should add to there agenda. ----------------------------------------------
aside from 1)increasing numerical caps,
2)reducing processing delays,
3)eliminating per country limits,
4)eliminiting career stagnation rules,
5)aside from visa recapturing,
6)aside from not wasting visas,
7)aside from eliminating name-check backlogs..,
8) aside from allocating one visa per family as opposed to one visa per person---.----you want them to change their internal system as well!
I understand the entire system needs an overhaul,but it would be great if IV acheives even one of the above agendas....
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vkjanam
02-18 12:23 PM
Hi Sukhwinderd,
This is good info. At present I am trying to influence some of my friends to contribute to the advocacy days and this info comes in very handy for such dicussion with them.
regards
Vkjanam
here is a report which says there are more than 300,000 GC visa numbers were unused.
go to page 35 or search pdf for recapture to see chart.
from the report
This dialogue is critical considering that when USCIS
and DOS fail to accurately estimate cut-off dates, visas go
unused or are shifted to other family or employment-based
categories. Congress passed legislation permitting the
recapture of some unused visa numbers from previous
years.119 Figure 19 presents data on visa numbers �lost�
between 1992 and 2009 for both employment and family
preference categories.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_2010_annual_report_to_congress.pdf
recapturing visas is the easiest way to clear backlog. it has happened before and can happen again, if all of us try.
This is good info. At present I am trying to influence some of my friends to contribute to the advocacy days and this info comes in very handy for such dicussion with them.
regards
Vkjanam
here is a report which says there are more than 300,000 GC visa numbers were unused.
go to page 35 or search pdf for recapture to see chart.
from the report
This dialogue is critical considering that when USCIS
and DOS fail to accurately estimate cut-off dates, visas go
unused or are shifted to other family or employment-based
categories. Congress passed legislation permitting the
recapture of some unused visa numbers from previous
years.119 Figure 19 presents data on visa numbers �lost�
between 1992 and 2009 for both employment and family
preference categories.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/cisomb_2010_annual_report_to_congress.pdf
recapturing visas is the easiest way to clear backlog. it has happened before and can happen again, if all of us try.
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JunRN
08-27 02:12 PM
I second...no need to panic....let's start doing what they're doing on the last week of September if we don't get our receipts....just kidding...
I guess a well package application gets the nod for Receipting very fast while poorly package ones may face stricter scrutiny at the mailroom. Another thing, the mailing room is also sorting out applications to be retained at its service center and those that need to be transferred to other service centers.
I guess a well package application gets the nod for Receipting very fast while poorly package ones may face stricter scrutiny at the mailroom. Another thing, the mailing room is also sorting out applications to be retained at its service center and those that need to be transferred to other service centers.
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senthil1
07-28 01:20 PM
Problem is not with compaign to get more spill over visa for EB3. Can you impress USCIS/DOS to get this done. What support EB3 has outside(like companies,lawyers) for this compaign. EB2 supposed to have more skills than EB3 according to DOS/USCIS. So if you argue that EB3 and EB2 are same then they will not accept it. If you impress somehow they will just investigate the entire EB process and try to find the truth. That time many other issues may come up.
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Also if many persons think that EB2 and EB3 are the same level then it makes sense to combine both and add the numbers. Will it be possible? Point system will resolve these issues but that also was not welcomed by most IV members when last CIR was in discussion
Anyhow if all EB3 persons send a letter to DOS/USCIS EB2 persons are not going to prevent it. But wordings in the letter should be careful such that it should not create a problem for entire EB process.
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
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neerajkandhari
10-08 07:06 PM
I am july 2 filer
I believe 180 days are over around 31 dec 2007 for using AC21
I am planning to quit my job and go to india for max 3 mnths
I have a job offer and they are ready to hire me from 1 april 2008
what precautions should i take so i dont have problems while coming back
I am planning to use AP
I believe 180 days are over around 31 dec 2007 for using AC21
I am planning to quit my job and go to india for max 3 mnths
I have a job offer and they are ready to hire me from 1 april 2008
what precautions should i take so i dont have problems while coming back
I am planning to use AP
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desi3933
02-05 11:01 AM
Desi3933 - Thank you for sharing this link. Now I totally believe it.
As promised before, now after looking at DOL web site, I will shut up.
Kumar -
You are welcome. I am glad to be of help.
There was a case U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR vs. Ken Technologies, Inc. That dealt with issues of benching and when employer is liable to start paying.
Personally, I don't want you to "shut up". Disagreement is part of healthy discussion. But I felt your post should have been little more polite than this post.
Where is it written???? 30 day rule?????? SHOW ME ...................................
STOP THIS NON-SENSE.......
As promised before, now after looking at DOL web site, I will shut up.
Kumar -
You are welcome. I am glad to be of help.
There was a case U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR vs. Ken Technologies, Inc. That dealt with issues of benching and when employer is liable to start paying.
Personally, I don't want you to "shut up". Disagreement is part of healthy discussion. But I felt your post should have been little more polite than this post.
Where is it written???? 30 day rule?????? SHOW ME ...................................
STOP THIS NON-SENSE.......
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03-08 04:07 PM
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apahilaj
02-03 07:44 PM
I have been waiting for the FP in the hope that they will be issuing it soon, its already Feb and I have not received it yet. Im the only one who has not recieved the notice yet in my friends circle, I have opened an SR last week. Mine is TSC application. Are there any TSC guys yet to receive the FP notices. Overall are there a significant number of people still waiting or is it just a few of us
Thanks
Hi,
What is your 485 notice date and which state are you residing?
Thanks
Hi,
What is your 485 notice date and which state are you residing?
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09-25 11:29 AM
I applied on July 23rd to NSC and today my lawyer sent me an email with scanned copy of all the receipts and they are from CSC.
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unitednations
03-08 08:22 PM
If many EB3-I folks are getting GCs then why is EB3-I PD stuck in 2001? Shouldn't it move?
One other note; those eb3 to eb2 conversoins original priority dates were 2003 in eb3.
One other note; those eb3 to eb2 conversoins original priority dates were 2003 in eb3.
desiguy22042
09-23 09:42 PM
Hi rc0878,
I just checked the notice and there is no priority date on mine. It is left blank.
I wonder if it is printed for ANYONE.
Quick question for thosewho have already recieved their receipt notice????
What does the priority date column say on your receipt notices? I mean does it show the actual priority date or is blank????
I just checked the notice and there is no priority date on mine. It is left blank.
I wonder if it is printed for ANYONE.
Quick question for thosewho have already recieved their receipt notice????
What does the priority date column say on your receipt notices? I mean does it show the actual priority date or is blank????
